Forbidden Knowledge
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Forbidden Knowledge
Special Episode: Rebirth and Enlightenment: Unlocking the Hidden Power of Ancient Initiation Rituals
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In this Special Episode, Nathaniel Heutmaker, gives a sneak peek behind the curtain of snippets that are to come in part two of the current of season 1. He gave this material to a friend of his as recording to help them with their own practice and research, mainly from the Nordic perspective, with other tidbits thrown in along the way.
What if you could align your mind, body, and soul to achieve true transformation? Discover the ancient secrets of rebirth rituals and initiation processes that promise profound personal growth and enlightenment. We delve into the physical and mental rigors required for rebirth, emphasizing the importance of a higher power and self-honesty. Learn how to align your thoughts, emotions, and actions to avoid cognitive dissonance and reshape your reality, with insights from the ancient Greek Trivium Method.
Ever wondered how ancient civilizations achieved spiritual enlightenment? Join us as we uncover the intricacies of ancient initiation rituals, from mock hangings to being buried alive, designed to activate both physical and mental states. Explore the significance of living in the present moment and the concept of true care, symbolized by a heart as light as a feather. We also reveal how astronomical events like the heliacal rising of Sirius and Venus are intricately connected to these rituals, guiding individuals toward enlightenment and deeper knowledge.
Embrace the wisdom of ancient mystery schools and cults with our exploration of initiation processes tied to equinoxes and solstices. Discover the powerful symbolism of the number three and its reflection of the journey from the underworld to resurrection. Learn about rhythmic dancing, chanting, fire ceremonies, and purging rituals, some involving narcotics, used to achieve spiritual enlightenment. Finally, gain valuable insights into the longer rebirth processes later in life, requiring deeper gnosis and offering profound transformation for those on the path to personal growth and enlightenment.
It was really trying on their bodies for a lot of stuff with it. Imagine a mock hanging that you had to go through with that, or literally being buried alive and the mental and physical pressure that that's going to put onto your body and whatnot, or making it so that way you have to hold your breath underwater for a certain amount of time in order to make that happen. So, to help with your notion of doing a rebirth ritual and whatnot, there are certain things I want to talk about that people had to do beforehand, had to have an understanding of things beforehand, as well as themes that are brought up between all of the traditions of the world that I'm aware of that have done this particular notion of things. The very, very first thing that you have to do is that you have to know that there's a higher power than yourself and whatnot. Anybody who does not have that does not get anything out of this in any way, shape or form, and it becomes quite obvious that they never get the benefits of this if they don't have this inner knowing and whatnot. This is something you personally do not have to worry about, because obviously you already believe in a higher power and that kind of thing with it. So step one's already been accomplished for you, congratulations. I'm just letting you know that this is also technically part of it for what's happening. Atheists were not permitted to partake in these different things and if they slept through it, they never got anything from it. That was the consensus from all the general groups and things that I read about it.
Speaker 1:Thing number two is you have to stop lying, especially to yourself. So if you want to have the ritual, be the way that you want it to be and go with it and do well, you need to make it so. That way, you've agreed to stop lying in general about how things are. In other words, it's basically an alignment with reality what you want, what's happening that kind of thing with it, and trying to figure out exactly what you want with it. The reasoning behind doing so and being honest with the world around you and other people, as well as with yourself, is to make it so that way. I didn't get what I wanted to from this last year or from the previous life that I had before I decided to go through this ritual and whatnot. But I need something better to come out of this. I need something with that and you have to be honest with yourself about what went wrong as well as what you intend to get instead or what you're hoping to get instead from it, and move towards with that and that kind of thing with it. So that's another thing that needs to be done here with it. The next thing is to stop dreaming.
Speaker 1:There's different variations of what this means, but in modern terms, this is cognitive dissonance. There's different variations of what this means, but in modern terms, this is cognitive dissonance. This is where you say one thing but do another, and so there could be something that's going on that makes it so that way. You say one thing and do another. And a perfect example of this for you personally would be when you're a pagan, you are a heathen and whatnot. You know that there are certain things you believe in and that kind of stuff, and then you talked about a guy who came and blessed you for one of the fights that was Christian with the cross, and then that with it, do with it and then taking up something that is not good for you and what you believe in and whatnot. That action could be what causes all the stuff with your fights specifically, uh, to go on with it. I'm not saying it is the case. That's something for you to deep dive personally and be honest about. Like we talked about in the second step uh, here for what's going on.
Speaker 1:But you, that's a version of cognitive dissonance for what's happening, where you have one thing and say you leave all these things over here and do another. You're causing a dichotomy within yourself and it gives you the results that you don't want. So, to add to this, there are three parts of ourselves that we have to understand, which the Norse myths fit perfectly for this. There's our thoughts, our emotions and our actions. All three of these need to be in alignment in order to make that happen, which is why you have to stop lying to yourself. You have to stop having the dreaming, the cognitive dissonance that we have, in order for all these to actually get into what you need to be done with it here. All right, and this helps with the rebirth process to make it so. That way, you're very clear about what you want. So that way, you're shedding the old life like a snake would and whatnot, in terms of getting rid of its excess skin and being reborn into something else with it. Right, and that's what you need to have for that. That's the next step of things. All right, now.
Speaker 1:Another part of occult initiation, in terms of this death ritual and mock death ritual and whatnot is you need to learn how to think. Now, obviously, what you talked about with the child and all that it's a different story and that kind of stuff. This is as an adult, where we have more control over things with it and whatnot. Now, this is called the Trivium Method in the ancient Greek traditions and whatnot. But basically, if you want to put it in modern terms, you've got input, meaning where your information is coming from. You've got the processing stage, which is where you try to weed out the logical inconsistencies, and then you have the output. All right, with this output stage. With it, this creates our world, and if you have, every person goes through these stages of things as they get older and whatnot, and that makes it so that way, their entire world is created this particular way, and so it all starts with the information, which is why tyrants of every age target the first stage of things with censorship, because if they make that happen, they've already produced the outcome that they want from the get-go and that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:How we use this for our particular stuff here, though, in order to go through this initiation, to go through this rebirth ritual and whatnot, is to make it so. That way, we weed out any logical inconsistencies about the stuff that we say that we don't want anymore and what we do want, and make sure that there isn't anything. We stop the cognitive dissonance between the two. We make sure everything is in alignment beforehand, doing all these steps ahead of time, as well as believing in higher powers, basically purging ourselves of all the BS that happened to it on us in a mental state beforehand, and we're going through an entire process of doing so that needs to be done for that. So then the next stage of things is you've got to live in the present moment. So the more you can live in the present moment, the less the past can deal with it and whatnot, and the less you project the past into the future, for what's going on here now.
Speaker 1:Obviously we need to use it for technical knowledge, say, like how to drive a car as an example. I pick up that, but the moment I've stopped driving a car, I'm not thinking about driving a car anymore and I don't need that knowledge anymore. That's sitting there with it. That's not what I'm talking about here. We're talking about knowledge. It was really trying on their bodies for a lot of stuff with it.
Speaker 1:Imagine a mock hanging that you had to go through with that, or literally being buried alive and the mental and physical pressure that that's going to put onto your body and whatnot, or making it so that way you have to hold your breath underwater for a certain amount of time in order to make that happen. Birth and whatnot. If you do not commit to the moment and go through these other things properly, as discussed, you will not make it so. That way, you do what needs to be done and whatnot, and you might get mixed results from it or no results whatsoever. Typically, you won't get negative results if you do it in good faith, which obviously I know you intend to do. That's just how it plays out for that.
Speaker 1:And then the next step is that you need to have the physical body activated and these types of rituals and whatnot, at least in ancient time periods I don't know how much it was in modern time periods or what it is, if they're still even being practiced in the real way that our ancient forebearers actually did and whatnot way that our ancient forebearers actually did and whatnot they needed to make it so that way. There it was really trying on their bodies for a lot of stuff with it. Imagine them a mock hanging, that you had to go through uh with that, or literally being buried, uh, alive, and the mental and physical pressure that's going to put um onto your body and whatnot. Or making it so that way, you have to hold your breath underwater for a certain amount of time in order to make that happen. And then I will tell you my own personal stuff a little later, in terms of stuff that I'll send to you in a different format rather than record it this way, and whatnot that you can read if you're interested in of my own, you know, type of rebirth that occurred through going through a ritual like this. So that's stuff that's on that particular front. All of these things need to be done with that.
Speaker 1:A hidden step that's above all of these different steps and whatnot. And behind all of these different steps is what I call true care. Behind all these different steps is what I call true care, and that's where you have to really truly be behind the notion of everything, really giving your heart, soul, spirit, whatever you want to call it into it. Imagine the good imagery of this is. You need to have your heart as light as a feather, with, like Anubis, holding the scales up, and what I know it's not, you know, peg, it's. I know that it's not norse paganism, but that that imagery of your consciousness being that light you need to have in order for this to be as successful as as possible, um, and and as plausible for and to have the most benefits and the effects that were going on with this and whatnot.
Speaker 1:This is actually what I'm working on right now is a book that has to do with all this stuff on it. It's very similar to the hero's journey that Joseph Campbell did, except I'm calling it the initiate's journey, and I have my own version of things that I'm working on towards with it, and a lot of the stuff that I'm doing is about this, and I'm hoping to have the book come out sometime March or April of this next year and whatnot. So a lot of this stuff is tying in with this right now. For what's going on. Anyway, there are other important aspects and themes that are going on with all this. It's not just about going through the hole that you pointed out, or going into the water, or even the purging of everything that we've talked about here and making sure everything's good, uh, the way that it needs to be done. In terms of that, there's other symbolic acts that you can do, uh, ahead of time. All those things are good, like with the dolmens that you brought up. Um, none of that. I'm detracting from all that is true, all that's valid, all that's other stuff. I'm giving other layers of themes here in this next section to give food for thought for what's going on.
Speaker 1:A lot of these rituals were tied also to the heliacal rising of either Sirius or the heliacal rising of Venus and whatnot. Both have to do with enlightenment and knowledge and things of this particular nature and various different pagan and occult traditions for where it comes from and makes it so. That way you have illumination that goes along with this. Also, most of these rituals in terms of isolating yourself and burying yourself alive and whatnot, and all that aren't supposed to just be done on one particular day. It's supposed to be a minimum of three days and a lot of times up to nine days. For what's going on?
Speaker 1:Maria and her work on the maiden with the mead and a temple at Uppsala and that kind of stuff, with there being some sort of mystery, cult, tradition and kind of a rebirth notion and idea, and that kind of stuff dovetails perfectly with my research. I thought these traditions died out, at least in terms of Northern Africa, europe and Asia, with the exception of India, of course, and maybe certain pockets of China, but for the most part had died out in about the year 500 AD or so. It is quite clear after reading her work and knowing the differences of things with me and myself for what's going on here and my own research and stuff with it, that these traditions continued onward in Europe through the Viking Age and it was done with the Maiden, with the Mead Um, and it was done with the maiden, with the mead uh, as it's called, and whatnot, um. And so just put that out there for whatever that's worth to you Maybe nothing, maybe everything, for what's going on to add uh to these things with it. Typically, uh, north and East is the direction in which you want to be facing.
Speaker 1:In almost all the traditions that there are in the world it is associated with uh, illumination and enlightenment and um, a spiritual rejuvenation. Uh, from the occult standpoint, once again, um, every single one of them has to do with something with the earth and the underworld and, um, what or and or. Water, which also represents transformation and reflection, and all these other things that go along with that. Um, each culture has their own variation of this. You have the pyramid texts for ancient Egypt. You have some of the initiations and rituals in the poetic edda that have survived, that go on with things with it. That, again, she's touched on Maria has touched on quite a bit. You have various different things that show up in the Celtic traditions. Whatever the point is, it's all over the world and each has their own variation of things with it. But it's a sh to kind of show you some of the stuff, at least in its original form. I'm not talking about what it's become now. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm not part of the Masonic temples in the New Age of Reform, um, but they have their own rituals that survived through the Templars and all the way up through stuff with it. And one of them has to do with Hiram Abiff, who is a fake mythological figure that's just there for allegorical purposes, and his name, literally, if you break it down, hiram Above. And I'm bringing this up because, literally, if you break it down, high ram above and I'm bringing this up because this is where the Yule Book comes in, and the traditions that are with that, and goats representing reincarnation and rebirth, also having to do with the sign of Sagittarius and Capricorn and whatnot, and that's where all these type of things come together, being pulled from it. It's also part of the Norse traditions, as you very much know, and so here's another aspect that's playing out with that. You can see this everywhere and all the traditions for it, and they would go most of these places that were these rituals to partook, including the dolmens, including the hypogeum, including the pyramid, the great pyramid and whatnot, the burial mounds, whatever. This was sometimes referred to as the bridal chamber, okay, and so that gives us a lot of hints for things.
Speaker 1:Already you have Odin, who is the spirit, and he is trying to seek out Freya, slash Frigg, depending upon you know which one you want to look at, and whatnot. Even Idun, because all of the female Disir come together into one and they all have representation of things with it, and so you are awakening your personal Norn, your Bakaria, your Fugia, fugia. Excuse me for what's going on with it by doing so, excuse me for what's going on with it. By doing so and you are making it so that way, you are having a true rebirth experience to where you're not having your personal Norn. Make it so that way it weaves random fates for you. You're making it so that way. It's weaving random fates for you. You're making it so that way it's weaving active fates for you, and that things are going on in a particular point of view for what's happening.
Speaker 1:And part of how we can do this in a not just realistic sense, but also in a real-world sense, is nature is a far better planner than you and I or anybody else will be, and we just have to figure out what we stand for, what we actually truly to choose the best and most important course of action for us in any given moment. So if we have a North Star, let's say something we believe in, whatever that is, and we go towards that. It doesn't matter which way the river bends and turns and what fate throws at us. We make it so that way we have the best, if we choose the best option for us. If it's like a river, most people they're a river that doesn't have a rudder, because they don't know where they're going, what they're doing, so they crash into everything and they have to take whatever life throws into us. But if you go through this process of stop lying to yourself, stopping the cognitive dissonance, understanding how to think and where to get stuff, living in the present moment, believing in a higher power, having our activated physical body and whatnot, going through this ritualistic thing of it and making sure that we choose the best course of action for us based upon what our higher principles and beliefs are every step of the way with it, then we will be able to navigate the river of life, no matter what it throws at us, and we will choose the very best possible course of action for ourselves which makes it so. That way, we will live the very best possible lives for ourselves.
Speaker 1:This is the wisdom that's hidden inside of the ancient mystery school traditions and ancient cults and whatnot that are there for that, are there for that and I know kind of going all over the place with this here, but I'm trying to bring up everything that's going on with it here and another time period that a lot of places did it were actually done also on the equinoxes, that they would do this for, not just the solstices, marrying yourself, and that you're getting in touch with your, with your soul, and letting it do things for you and whatnot, and connecting with it directly. There's actually multiple different levels of doing this type of stuff, and the deeper you go into it, the more that you get out of it. And most of the traditions have three steps that they have to go through, minimum, in order to do that. And the final one is where you get to the level of like Autor and seeing everything inside of it, knowing your lineage, knowing who you are, coming back with the mead and all that other stuff, and basically conquering death itself. Uh, on a spiritual level at least. Uh, and whatnot. Now, I know that's not what you're looking for, but the process of initiation is the same and maybe you'll get something more um from it. Uh, with that, I can tell you that when I and I didn't understand it all the time cause I didn't that when I and I didn't understand it all the time because I didn't, I hadn't done the research for it, and I still have a lot of understanding. I need to go through with this, but you know, I had an outer body experience when I went through this type of stuff with it, and that's all I'm going to say in this particular recording. If you're interested in more on that particular front for it, I'm more than happy to go into that with you personally and that kind of thing. Yeah, I think that's all that I need to go into. If you have any questions, comments or concerns about um what?
Speaker 1:I went the night time with it and it was made so that way they would get up just before the sunrise and they would make it so that way they would see Sirius or Venus if they were doing stuff with those things, and they would witness it right before the sun rose and then they would see the sunrise for what was going on, kind of as a purging of everything with it, and the night being the underworld part and the day being the resurrection coming up, through everything with that. I think the three days is important too. It fits 100% with the sun on the cross for what it is in the sky and whatnot, and it doesn't go anywhere and it looks like it's dead for three days and then it starts rising up again on an astrotheological standpoint for stuff with it, when you're using astronomy, and I think that that's the important part for it. I think that's why there's also three degrees that they did for it. Three by three equals a nine. So three degrees and three days for what's going on equals the nine days that need to be done with it, which gives us the nine days that they've done in other traditions, especially the Eleusian mysteries, for what's going on With that.
Speaker 1:Most traditions they took some sort of drug or narcotic or things of this nature in order to make it happen. There's lots of traditions that don't do that, of course, too, and there's other rituals that lead up to it that have to do with purging and stuff with it. There's some rhythmic dancing that helps get you in the present moment, or chanting, or some sort of fire ceremony that's done with things with it, using to purge things away and kind of destroy everything that's going on with it going in to the ocean, getting in the fetus position, fetal position and just letting it do stuff for a little bit and whatnot, or burying yourself in the sand for a little bit or any of those other things with it. Again, if you're trying to cure a child of these things, like you mentioned, that's a completely different thing, or the child is in a separate category of things with it.
Speaker 1:We are talking about a rebirth ritual when you are older and whatnot, and it takes longer to reset your mind, so to speak, and and whatnot. There's much more to it. There's much higher levels of gnosis that need to be, that need to be represented and that kind of thing, and this is where I'll leave off with that, if you have any questions. This is getting longer than I anticipated it would be. I hope this is helpful, that you can take kernels of truth and wisdom from it and make it so that way you gain something from this and what not, and that it is a boon in your quest for doing things. Thank you.